Last week’s interview with Jocelyn Wong about food was surprisingly popular, and I hope you all enjoy this interview with writer Amanda Roberts of TwoAmericansinChina.com.
She has a cookbook available that you just may find interesting…
First of all – as the typical question goes – what brought you to China?
It was a dream of mine for a long time to teach in China. I graduated with my master’s degree in English in 2009, right about the time as the economic crash, so full-time teaching jobs in the U.S. just weren’t available. By the time my husband and I started looking for jobs nationwide, we decided “if we’re gonna move, let’s move big!” So we packed up and moved to China.
Have you found the expat scene to be welcoming and positive? What challenges have you overcome?
China is a big place, so the expat communities can vary widely. In the first town we lived in, we were only two of four expats in a little rural town in Hunan Province, so that was hard. We really got along with the others, but it was still isolating. Then we moved to Changsha. While Changsha had a bigger scene, there wasn’t much to do in the town, so it was very boring and hard to find people with similar interests. Moving to Shenzhen was a huge change. There are so many expats here for such a (relatively) small town. They are also very well connected via social media, so they’re easier to find. We have made many great friends here and are members of several hobby groups, so life here is pretty good.
What are your top complaints about living abroad? (This one optional)
I miss having a clothes drier! I have a cat and a dog and their fur gets everywhere so my clothes are constantly covered in pet fur. Shenzhen is also very damp, so sometimes it can take days for clothes to dry.
I also miss having a vehicle. Not a car, but at least a motorbike or something. We had motorbikes in Hunan, but they are banned here in Shenzhen. It can make going places very difficult and makes me feel almost debilitated at times.
What’s your favorite thing about living in China?
I love my job. It’s nice to be working in the writing and editing field and I also have a lot of freedom to work on my own writing projects.
I also just like living abroad. I like the people, the atmosphere, the ability to travel and save money. I don’t know if we will stay in China forever, but I don’t think we will ever move back to the U.S.
How did you decide to become a writer?
I’ve always been a writer. I was on the school newspaper in elementary school and was a reporter and anchor for a weekly televised teen news program when I was in high school. I published quite a few things in college. I’ve taught writing at American universities since 2007. Writing is who I am. But I had never pursued “writing” as a career until after I moved to China – I had always considered myself a writing teacher. Now, I identify as a writer and editor. I think living here has given me much more of a voice, something important say. I also have the time and financial independence to write, which are the two big hindrances for most aspiring writers.
What’s the story on the creation of your cookbook?
The first place we lived in China was a county town in the middle of nowhere. We were two hours by bus from the nearest town with a McDonalds or Walmart and four hours away from the nearest city. So we used to take lots of long bus rides in the countryside. But I can’t read in a moving vehicle – I get nauseous. So I spent those trips just thinking. I came up with lots of book ideas while on those trips. One of which was Crazy Dumplings. I had just spent the week in the countryside with my goddaughter’s family for Chinese New Year surrounded with so much good Chinese food and, of course, lots of dumplings! I had the itch to write a cookbook for a long time, but I thought a Chinese cookbook or an expat cookbook would be too much work for my first foray, so the idea of focusing just on dumplings came to mind. I had a dozen recipes in mind by the end of the day.
How have you found online-promotional platforms such as Kickstarter to be helpful?
Kickstarter is amazing. I am addicted to that site. I have backed dozens of projects over the years, so I was excited to finally try it for myself. The book did very well. I presold over 400 physical books (something very hard to do for a first-time self-published author) and raised over $9,000. But Kickstarter is about more than raising money, it is about creating awareness, buzz. I gained so many supportive fans through the project and even made some real friends. A couple of my backers lived here in Shenzhen and we met through the project and are good friends today. Kickstarter is a great community.
What advice would you give to writers who use the Internet for promotion and distribution?
Keep writing. Don’t get sucked into the marketing and promoting and Facebook and Twitter so much that you aren’t writing your next book. Readers are always looking for an author they can read multiple books by, and many authors don’t start to see success until their third book. So while marketing and the business aspect of being an author are important, don’t get sucked down that rabbit hole. Your first job is to write.
Lastly, any other interesting writing projects you’d like to share?
Oh, so many! I just confirmed with my partners that we would be able to produce Crazy Dumplings II later this year. I am most likely going to be doing a Kickstarter again for that. I am also working on a children’s book. I hope to find a Chinese or Hong Kong publisher for that one because the target is Chinese children. I have a romance novel coming out next year with an American publisher and I am working on a historical novel set in Qing Dynasty China which is almost complete.
Read more from Amanda Roberts at TwoAmericansinChina.com
Thanks Ray for posting this and thanks Amanda for sharing some of your insights and personal experiences regarding publishing a book. It is nice to learn a little bit more about kickstarter and how it was a success for you.
And I hear you about social media – it can eat up a lot of writing time, so it is important to schedule your time wisely.
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Thanks for your comment! Yeah, I read an article yesterday by a publisher who listed all these “tips” for getting the most out of Twitter. I simply have no time for that.
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Definitely agree Amanda. It’s a delicate balance, but if the marketing part is overtaking the actual writing than something is wrong…
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Great interview, thanks for this Ray and thank you to Amanda for sharing. The writing life can be demanding – juggling ideas for future books and articles, social media promotion, checking out what other writers are writing, reading and so on. As Constance mentioned, definitely important to plan your time wisely if you want to take writing seriously. It’s so easy to get sidetracked.
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Yeah, I think in the past I have used the “business” of writing to put off actual writing. It is great for helping you procrastinate, but can be very detrimental if you are trying to get any actual work done.
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Wow, this book looks great. It’s always fascinating for me to read about expats in the interior. I think writing is a good way to share that experience and sometimes it’s the only way to make sense of it!
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Thanks so much for your comment! Yeah, life in different areas of China can vary greatly! Life in Shenzhen is nothing like life in rural Hunan, and I’m really grateful for my experiences in both.
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That’s so true! The language, customs, food, etc. all differ. Plus, rural vs. urban living is totally different, too.
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